“Today my guest is Brian Hallagan, co-founder and longtime CEO of HubSpot.”
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“HubSpot famously, uh, tested selling through agencies instead of direct.”
“Brian Halligan, who's the founder chairman of HubSpot, did one too.”
“Prior to Reforge, Brian led growth at HubSpot.”
“it was third in CRM just behind Salesforce and HubSpot”
“he's the co-founder of Hub spots”
“my last interview that I did was with the co-founder of HubSpot daresh”
“this is the like the week where we've decided we're going to do this”
“right now I can honestly say I'm having a better time at HubSpot now it's 7,000 people”
“we went from a billion dollars in Market cap to 30 billion”
“if I want to buy CRM I don't get to talk to Yaman at HubSpot or Mark Benny off”
“previously Brian was VP of growth at HubSpot”
“when we went from one product to multi-product at at HubSpot”
“this this Ritual from HubSpot called flash tags”
“that job actually competed with HubSpot”
“having both HubSpot and Salesforce both are crms both have the ability to track users and companies neither are cdps”
“you can natively plug Stripe, Salesforce, or HubSpot directly into Rose.”
“that's one of the HubSpot Secrets was all of their like really thoughtful helpful content certifications for marketers”
“it can be widgets within Salesforce or etls that you pipe through HubSpot marketos into Salesforce”
“I know many B2B companies, they use HubSpot or they use something like for their email marketing”
“already widely deployed it world-class Brands like uber Spotify HubSpot and uipath”
“she's also on the board of HubSpot and the Atlantic”
“hubspot's trying to make it a flywheel but marketers are still talking about funnels”
“if you take HubSpot it's a hybrid model between a pay as you go and a subscription”
“HubSpot does a really good job so they have a lot of content around productivity”
“the Brian Balfour wrote about a similar ceremony from these HubSpot days”
“so Marketo now HubSpot fits into that even though back then they were more of this inbound marketing platform slash category”
“i also consider marketing ops work like the setup of like hubspot”
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