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ProductivityLane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)

Systems Not Goals

Build a default-on repeatable system instead of chasing a one-off target.

Difficulty
Easy
Time to result
~ongoing to results
Steps
3
Confidence
90%

Rather than obsessing over a goal, install a recurring system that produces the outcome as a byproduct. Goals turn on and off quarter to quarter, but a default-on ritual compounds. Shackleton frames the product manager's core job as turning ambiguity into clarity, and systems are how you do that reliably rather than sporadically.

Origin

Lane Shackleton credits the Jerry Seinfeld documentary Comedian: after throwing away 15 years of material, Seinfeld rebuilt an hour of stand-up not by fixating on the goal but by running a daily system (write every morning, perform every night). Shackleton adapted this to product teams at Coda.

Core principles

  • 01Goals with good intentions don't work because they switch on and off
  • 02A system runs by default whether or not a goal is set
  • 03Good instincts (e.g. customer intuition) are the residue of a repeated system, not a single push
  • 04The value of a system is hard to see until you notice one team has far better instincts than another

How to run it

  1. 1

    Name the capability you actually want

    Identify the underlying instinct or outcome you're chasing (e.g. strong customer intuition), not just the quarterly number that proxies for it.

    Pro tip Ask which capability, if it compounded, would make the goal trivial.

    Watch out Do not confuse hitting an OKR once with having built the capability.

  2. 2

    Convert it into a default-on cadence

    Design a recurring ritual that fires regardless of motivation — a standing weekly customer session, a fixed writing block — and put it on the calendar so it happens by default.

    Pro tip Coda blocked Fridays for an incoming customer visit so a prototype always had to exist.

    Watch out If skipping it requires no effort, it will erode; make the default state 'it happens'.

  3. 3

    Rinse and repeat until instinct emerges

    Run the system hundreds of times. The compounding output (material, prototypes, customer insight) is what builds the durable advantage.

    Pro tip Sometimes you'll scramble hours before the ritual — that pressure is the system working.

    Watch out Don't judge the system by any single output; judge it by the instincts it produces over months.

In the wild

Coda's default-on Friday customer sessions

In Coda's early days a customer or potential customer was booked on the calendar every Friday, so the team always had to have something to show. Sometimes they scrambled three hours before to get a prototype ready.

The team developed strong customer instincts not as a stated goal but as a byproduct of the default-on system.

Common mistakes

Setting a 'talk to 10 customers' OKR

Teams set a one-quarter goal of talking to customers, may or may not hit it, then drop it next quarter — so learning goes up and down instead of compounding, and product instincts never form.

Measuring the goal instead of the cadence

Tracking whether the target was hit tells you nothing about whether the underlying capability is building; only the recurrence of the system does.

Is it for you?

Best for

Product leaders and founders who want durable customer intuition or output quality rather than sporadic quarterly pushes

Not ideal for

Genuinely one-off initiatives with a hard deadline and no repeat value

From the transcript

instead of being obsessed with a goal you know be obsessed with the system that gets you there

19:00

the way that we developed good customer instincts uh was not the goal it was really just the sort of system behind it

20:30

From the episode

What sets great teams apart

Lane Shackleton (CPO of Coda)