“there's also this book called founding sales that I imagine you're familiar with”
Founding Sales
By Pete Kazanjy
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“then I wrote I wrote a book on on sales for founders and other kind of first-time sellers. It's called Founding Sales.”
“your book Founding Sales is like the book I give every founder that is trying to figure out sales.”
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