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LeadershipPete Kazanjy (Founding Sales, Atrium)

The Leading-Indicator Ramp Scorecard

Judge a new seller each month on the indicator due that month, not on bookings.

Difficulty
Moderate
Time to result
~months to results
Steps
5
Confidence
91%

New sellers are evaluated on the wrong signal at the wrong time: founders wait for closed revenue, discover at month nine that it isn't working, and realise they could have known at month two. Kazanjy's ramp scorecard assigns each month of ramp the specific leading indicator that should be true by then — activity, then first meetings, then second meetings, then proposals, then closes — and evaluates against that indicator only. Crucially, hitting an early indicator lets you feel confident but never lets you declare victory, because the money is not in the bank.

Origin

Pete Kazanjy, derived from Atrium's data-driven sales management practice and his 'ramping for success' master class. He explicitly grounds the philosophy in Bill Walsh's The Score Takes Care of Itself: control a high quantity of high-quality actions and the score follows.

Core principles

  • 01Instrument the most leading indicator possible; it is the only thing that gives you time to intervene.
  • 02Each ramp month has one indicator that should be true by its end — measure that one.
  • 03A good early indicator earns confidence, never a victory declaration.
  • 04Low activity is fatal regardless of win rate: you cannot win deals you never started.
  • 05Coaching loops must be faster than the failure loop, which is why proximity to the rep matters.

How to run it

  1. 1

    Month 1 — onboarding and mock reps

    Spend month one teaching the rep the sales motion: mock discovery conversations, mock demos, ride-alongs on your live calls. The indicator is comprehension, not output.

    Pro tip Sit side by side. Listening to their calls in real time and correcting immediately makes the correction loop hours instead of days.

    Watch out Fully remote junior sellers suffer real learning loss — the correction loop stretches to once a day or longer, which is far too slow at early stage.

  2. 2

    Month 2 — activity and first meetings

    Expect 10-20 first meetings booked, with roughly 50% converting to second meetings. If a rep is not getting first meetings on the calendar within a month, that is already a decision-grade signal.

    Pro tip Look at email volume and opportunity inflow alongside meetings — they move first.

    Watch out First meetings happening but no second meetings is a different problem entirely: that is a coaching or behaviour issue, not an activity issue.

  3. 3

    Month 3 — progression to proposal

    Expect some subset of month-two's second meetings to reach a commercial conversation or proposal. Check progression, not revenue.

    Watch out Do not declare victory here. Lots of deals at proposal is a good sign, not an outcome.

  4. 4

    Month 4-5 — closes appear

    Some of the month-three proposals should close in month four or five. If proposals keep stacking up and nothing closes across months four and five, remain very concerned — the last stage of the motion is broken for this rep.

    Watch out Proposals without closes is the most seductive false positive in ramp: the pipeline looks healthy right up until it doesn't.

  5. 5

    Continuously monitor, then judge

    Ramp is continuous monitoring, not a single verdict date. When the indicator that should be live for the current interval is at the right level, you can feel confident. When it isn't, diagnose immediately: is it coaching, or is it a behavioural problem you will not surmount?

    Pro tip Separate the two failure modes explicitly — coachable gap vs unsurmountable behaviour — before deciding to invest more time.

    Watch out The worst outcome is realising at month nine that the leading indicators told you the answer at month two.

In the wild

Atrium's ramp instrumentation

Kazanjy teaches this as a master class on data-driven sales management: watch opportunity inflow, whether the person is putting meetings on their calendar, whether they progress them, and whether they are active in between. Each is checked against the interval it belongs to.

Underperformance is identified within one to two months instead of two to three quarters, preserving both runway and the rep's own career time.

The colocated correction loop

A founder sitting amongst three or four sellers hears the calls as they happen, and the moment a rep hangs up, gives corrections point by point and asks them to run it back immediately.

The speed of updating the rep's internal 'software' is dramatically higher than any asynchronous review cadence — which matters because early stage is a race against time to reach success before the next financing round.

Common mistakes

Judging a ramping rep on bookings

Revenue is the slowest signal in the system. Using it as the evaluation criterion means every wrong hire costs you two extra quarters you did not need to spend.

Declaring victory at the proposal stage

A rep whose deals all reach proposal in month three looks like a winner, but the money is not in the bank. If nothing closes in months four and five, you have a closing problem that the earlier indicators masked.

Blaming the rep before checking the collateral

If you never wrote down the discovery questions, built the deck, or supplied a demo script, the failure is yours. Precursors must exist before a rep's poor indicators mean anything about the rep.

Is it for you?

Best for

Founders and first-line sales managers onboarding their first two to eight sellers and needing an early, fair, evidence-based verdict.

Not ideal for

Senior enterprise sellers on 12-18 month cycles, where monthly proposal cadence isn't a meaningful expectation.

From the transcript

So like in the first month maybe you spend that time like onboarding the the rep, teaching them, you know, going through mock discovery conversations,…

50:00

you can't declare victory yet because like the money is not in the bank

50:30

if somebody's like not getting first meetings on their calendar, like you know within a month. It's like, "Okay, cool. This isn't working out."

48:30

loops are once a day of like you know, listening to their calls or maybe even like a like a longer interval then just like…

52:00

if you focus on those leading indicators and make sure that you're doing it in a high quantity of high quality way, then the score…

56:30

From the episode

Founder-led sales

Pete Kazanjy (Founding Sales, Atrium)