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No Linear Success Resilience

Expect the roller coaster: massive issues never stop coming, so build the skin to ride them.

Difficulty
Moderate
Time to result
~ongoing to results
Steps
4
Confidence
85%

Benioff, quoting Michael Dell, insists there is 'no linear success' — no up-and-to-the-right chart for any company, even Apple. Massive issues arrive constantly regardless of how long you've succeeded, so the entrepreneur's job is to expect the roller coaster, take the painful actions when required, and grow a thicker skin through the public battering.

Origin

Benioff credits the core principle 'there is no linear success' to his friend Michael Dell; the surrounding resilience framing is Benioff's own, drawn from Salesforce's 2023 transformation and layoffs.

Core principles

  • 01'There is no linear success' — no company has an up-and-to-the-right chart, not even Apple
  • 02Massive issues come constantly; expect more, not fewer
  • 03Sometimes survival requires destructive, painful action
  • 04Public criticism thickens your skin if you keep communicating through it

How to run it

  1. 1

    Abandon the up-and-to-the-right fantasy

    Accept that no stock chart or growth path is a clean line; economic, societal, and black-swan shocks (like a pandemic) are inevitable.

    Pro tip 'If you think it's only going to be about up and to the right you're in the wrong business.'

  2. 2

    Expect issues to keep coming

    Internalize that even after decades of success, massive issues will keep arriving — Benioff was 'in shock' to face one after 23 years, then realized more always come.

    Watch out Assuming you've earned smooth sailing is precisely what leaves you unprepared for the next hit.

  3. 3

    Take the painful action to survive

    When regeneration demands it, do the hard, sometimes destructive thing — Benioff architected a first-ever 10% layoff to save the company despite it being the last thing he wanted.

    Watch out 'No matter what' it won't go well — accept that some transformations simply hurt.

  4. 4

    Communicate through the criticism and grow skin

    Over-communicate publicly even while being attacked; the battering thickens your skin for the next cycle.

    Pro tip Benioff notes his 'thick skin got a lot thicker' during the layoff backlash.

In the wild

The 2023 transformation and layoff

Two years before the recording, after 23 years of relative smooth growth, Salesforce hit a crisis Benioff likens to pilots missing from a plane. Having over-hired during the pandemic, he architected the company's first scaled layoff — 10% of staff — to fund a financial, technology, and product transformation, absorbing heavy public criticism on Twitter and in the press.

The painful transformation restored the company to the strong financial, structural, and product-innovation position it held at the time of recording.

Common mistakes

Expecting linear, up-and-to-the-right success

Believing the path is a clean upward line leaves you unprepared; Benioff says if you think that, 'you're in the wrong business or you have the wrong life.'

Assuming past success buys future calm

Benioff was shocked to face a massive issue after 23 successful years — assuming longevity protects you means the next inevitable crisis catches you flat-footed.

Is it for you?

Best for

Founders and CEOs bracing for or moving through a downturn, crisis, or painful restructuring

Not ideal for

Those seeking a low-volatility path — Benioff explicitly says the 'monastic life' or steady state suits them better than entrepreneurship

From the transcript

he says there is no linear success

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there's no up and to the right and if you think it's only going to be about up and to the right you're in the…

50:00

we had to lay off 10% of the company to save the company and I didn't want to do it

47:00

guess what they're constantly at massive issues coming at you and there's more coming and that's the nature

49:30

From the episode

Behind the founder: Marc Benioff