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LeadershipJenny Wen (head of design at Claude)

Deliberate Low-Leverage Leadership

Choose the nitty-gritty tasks 'anyone could do' — because when a senior leader does them, they become high leverage.

Difficulty
Easy
Time to result
~ongoing to results
Steps
3
Confidence
83%

Standard manager advice says offload low-leverage work and only do what only you can do. Jenny Wen inverts this: the leaders she respects most deliberately take on seemingly low-leverage tasks, which become high-leverage precisely because of who's doing them. A senior leader dogfooding the product, reproducing bugs, filing PRs, or hand-making a card signals deep care, builds product familiarity, and sets culture in ways a delegated version never could.

Origin

Jenny Wen's reaction against the classic manager 2x2 (do only what only you can do; drop everything low-leverage), shared on Lenny's Podcast.

Core principles

  • 01A task's leverage depends on who performs it, not just the task itself
  • 02Senior leaders doing 'below them' work signals nothing is beneath the team
  • 03Deep hands-on product time creates real familiarity and better feedback
  • 04Personal, effortful gestures land differently coming from the leader
  • 05This is what makes a leadership style feel distinctive and special

How to run it

  1. 1

    Reject the pure leverage triage

    Don't blindly offload every task the 2x2 labels low-leverage; recognize some of them become high-impact when you personally do them.

    Pro tip Pick a small number of low-leverage tasks that are 'worth your time' specifically because of the signal your involvement sends.

  2. 2

    Deeply dogfood and get in the weeds

    Test the product hard, reproduce bugs, share logs with engineers, and nitpick details so you're genuinely in tune with what you ship.

    Pro tip Even filing a PR or fixing a bug yourself as a leader tells the team you're all on it together and nothing is below anyone.

    Watch out This is time-intensive nitty-gritty work; do it selectively, not as a substitute for actual leadership.

  3. 3

    Make the personal gesture yourself

    Do the small cultural things — like personally making or vibe-coding a teammate's anniversary card — rather than delegating them to an assistant.

    Pro tip The point is visible effort: an EA could make the card, but you doing it shows you care.

In the wild

Senior leaders filing their own PRs

Jenny cites seeing leaders like Mike Krieger put in PRs themselves and senior leaders who dogfood the product, repro bugs, and nitpick with engineers.

Creates familiarity with the product and a culture where the team feels nothing is beneath anyone and the leader genuinely cares.

Common mistakes

Mechanically offloading all low-leverage work

Following the classic 'only do what only you can do' rule strips away the exact hands-on, in-the-weeds acts that build product familiarity and signal care, weakening leadership impact.

Delegating the personal gestures

Handing the anniversary card or the culture-setting touch to an assistant loses the signal; the value is in the leader's visible effort, not the artifact.

Is it for you?

Best for

Managers and senior leaders who want to build product intuition and a high-trust, low-hierarchy team culture

Not ideal for

Leaders already overwhelmed who would use this as license to micromanage or avoid genuinely high-leverage strategic work

From the transcript

they choose like lowlever tasks that they take on themselves

55:30

whenever you have like senior leaders who just like test the

56:00

I think I've actually seen like Mike Kger before like put put in PRs himself

56:30

choosing the like the the seemingly lowlever tasks that are like

57:00

From the episode

The design process is dead. Here’s what’s replacing it.

Jenny Wen (head of design at Claude)