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07 June 2022

Shreyas Doshi on pre-mortems, the LNO framework, the three levels of product work, why most execution problems are strategy problems, and ROI vs. opportunity cost thinking

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster

The Hardest Feature to Build Isn't Always the One to Market

From John at Stripe, Doshi learned that product teams often want to promote the features that demanded the most work or feel most innovative. Customers may care more about a simpler capability, so marketing emphasis should follow what customers understand and value rather than mirror the engineering effort behind each feature.

  • Build effort and customer resonance are different variables
  • Product teams are naturally attached to difficult or innovative work
  • A seemingly minor feature may deserve greater marketing emphasis
  • Product language should match terms customers actually understand

talking about product in terms that customers really understand.

Shreyas Doshi

separate the effort involved in kind of building something with the effort you want to put behind talking about said thing.

Shreyas Doshi
#product-marketing#customer-value#positioning#stripe

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take

Google's $100 Million Filter Made Teams Think Bigger, but Miss Trends

Google Ads had an unwritten bar that opportunities below roughly $100 million in revenue were not worth pursuing because billion-dollar opportunities were available. Doshi says the standard trained him to expand the scale of an opportunity, but the same high bar could cause Google to miss emerging trends whose eventual size was not yet obvious.

  • Google Ads regularly declined opportunities that were large by ordinary standards
  • The environment trained teams to ask how a $1 million idea could become a $10 million idea
  • Pursuing large opportunities sometimes required creating a market rather than finding an obvious one
  • A high size threshold can filter out trends before their potential is legible

if it's not going to generate more than 100 million dollars in revenue, it's not worth talking about it

Shreyas Doshi

Google missed out on some trends simply because of this filter or this high bar

Shreyas Doshi
#google#strategy#market-sizing#innovation

Explainer· 1

Explainer

Why Network Effects Alone Don't Explain Twitter's Durability

Doshi attributes Twitter's staying power to the combination of network effects and a core product that remains meaningfully differentiated. Even amid infrastructure, leadership, and cultural problems, that combination made the service harder to displace than a network-effect explanation alone would suggest.

  • Network effects make an established social graph difficult to reproduce
  • Twitter also retained a core experience unlike other products
  • Differentiation and network effects reinforced each other
  • The combined moat helped the product survive serious organizational challenges

that core product differentiation combined with network effects has what enabled Twitter to kind of have the staying power it's had.

Shreyas Doshi
#twitter#network-effects#differentiation#product-strategy

Story· 1

Story

The One Question That Exposed a Weak Acquisition Case

During a Twitter discussion about a possible acquisition for Doshi's team, the room covered strategic, financial, integration, and metrics arguments. Jack listened and then asked how the deal would make users love Twitter more, exposing an important dimension the analysis had only addressed through proxies and for which Doshi had no strong answer.

  • The team had built a detailed intellectual case for and against the acquisition
  • Dorsey listened before intervening with one essential question
  • Metrics and integration plans had become proxies for user love
  • The unanswered question pushed Doshi toward more rigorous product thinking

how does this make our users love Twitter more?

Shreyas Doshi

at the time I did not have a good answer to that question.

Shreyas Doshi
#jack-dorsey#acquisitions#user-love#decision-making

Q&A· 1

Q&A

Why Aspiring PMs Should Consider Starting in Engineering

Doshi entered product management by doing customer and product work while still employed as an engineer, then building the solutions himself. He recommends that technically trained people consider engineering as a first job because empowered engineering teams expose them to far more than coding and let them choose a path from direct experience.

  • Doshi spent about a year doing product work before holding the PM title
  • Customer meetings revealed that he enjoyed understanding and solving user needs
  • Engineering on an empowered team can provide broad product exposure
  • Technical experience remains an advantage after moving into product management

I was kind of doing the product job without having the title. And I was also the engineer, so I was in this great state…

Shreyas Doshi

I often respond with try out engineering

Shreyas Doshi
#product-management#engineering#career-transition

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway

Why Painful Account Migrations Can Still Be Right

At Yahoo, Doshi learned the power of bundling multiple services under one account. He points to the backlash around moving YouTube users to Google accounts as an example of a painful migration whose long-term integrated experience eventually became normal, while acknowledging that acquired-product fans often resist the change.

  • A shared account can make a portfolio of services substantially more powerful
  • Account consolidation can trigger intense resistance from an acquired product's fans
  • Short-term backlash does not automatically make a platform migration strategically wrong
  • Users may eventually treat the integrated identity as ordinary

The interesting part though is nobody remembers that now, right? Like people happily use YouTube.

Shreyas Doshi

sometimes it's painful in the short term, even though it might actually be the right answer over the long term.

Shreyas Doshi
#platform-strategy#identity#acquisitions#migration
Takeaway

The Four Ingredients Behind Stripe's Small-Team Magic

The most distinctive team environment Doshi observed at Stripe combined high energy, sound judgment, low ego, and small teams. He does not present Stripe as flawless; his point is that this particular mix produced unusually effective collaboration and shaped his own thinking as a leader.

  • Energy increases the pace and ambition of the team
  • Sound judgment directs that energy toward sensible decisions
  • Low ego makes strong collaboration easier
  • Small teams preserve clarity and ownership

when you combine high energy sound judgment, low ego, and small teams, you just get magic.

Shreyas Doshi
#stripe#team-design#leadership#culture
Takeaway

Founders Set Culture by Living It, Not Posting It

Watching Patrick and John at Stripe, Doshi concluded that leaders establish culture by repeatedly modeling the behavior they want copied. Consistent user focus and humility communicated the values more strongly than formal statements, especially while Stripe was scaling.

  • Daily leadership behavior is a stronger cultural signal than stated values
  • Consistency matters because employees infer what the company truly rewards
  • User-centricity and humility can be modeled directly
  • Founders remain visible examples as the organization scales

setting the culture you want simply by consistently being an example of the behaviors you want to replicate in the organization.

Shreyas Doshi

that consistency spoke louder than anything that you might write on a poster on the office walls.

Shreyas Doshi
#culture#founders#leadership#stripe