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Sam Lessin15 January 2026

How to show up in any room with a low heart rate: Silicon Valley’s missing etiquette playbook

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Episode overview

Lenny Rachitsky talks with Slow Ventures partner and former Facebook product executive Sam Lessin about etiquette as a practical system for entering consequential rooms calmly and earning trust. They work through introductions, conversation, hygiene, dress, dining, scheduling, written communication, meetings, and graceful exits, emphasizing awareness and respect rather than rigid formality. Lessin also discusses his newsletter-to-cartoon product Letter Meme and argues that seed investors should favor strong businesses enhanced by AI over companies whose sole differentiation is being an “AI company.”

Key ideas

  • Good etiquette helps people project genuine confidence, build trust, and keep a low heart rate in socially or professionally important rooms.
  • An abundance mindset reduces transactional behavior: give more than you take, build relationships, and leave people wanting another conversation.
  • Small signals matter—arrive slightly early, make eye contact, repeat names, include companions, respect assistants and service workers, and clean up after yourself.
  • Match the room without performing for it: dress one level up, favor fit over expensive brands, use restrained fragrance, and ask when expectations are unclear.
  • Treat conversation like ping-pong by balancing questions with contributions, using humor carefully, and recognizing when it is time to exit gracefully.
  • Make scheduling and communication easy for the other person: accommodate reasonable availability, respect time zones, write concisely, proofread, and use email recipient fields deliberately.
  • For virtual meetings, turn the camera on, dress appropriately, and keep the visible background orderly.
  • Lessin believes AI is powerful infrastructure for ordinary businesses but that capital-intensive, weakly differentiated “AI companies” are often poor seed investments.

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People · 13

  • Sam LessinMentionsToday my guest is Sam Lesson, partner at Slow Ventures, previous VP of product at Facebook and two-time founder.

    Today my guest is Sam Lesson, partner at Slow Ventures, previous VP of product at Facebook and two-time founder.

  • Lenny RachitskyMentionstoday we've got another very special compilation episode something I've been pulling on more and more with the podcast and the newsletter

    Today my guest is Sam Lesson, partner at Slow Ventures, previous VP of product at Facebook and two-time founder.

  • Jessica LessinMentionsmy wife Jessica

    Lenny, please meet my wife Jessica.

  • Mark ZuckerbergMentionsit was sort of a random decision for Mark Zuckerberg to move from a uh monthly active to a daily active

    if you go up to Mark Zuckerberg and everyone knows what he looks like and who he is

  • Alison GopnikMentionsshe studies kids and she her whole thing is how kids learn like scientists

    Alex Allison Gopnik on Okay. podcast and she studies kids and she her whole thing is how kids learn like scientists

  • Tyler CowenMentionshe has this awesome blog marginal Revolution and he's really good at sharing insights from research papers

    I was just listening to Tyler Cohen had Alex Allison Gopnik on Okay. podcast and she studies kids

  • Kevin ColleranCoinedmy partner Kevin

    this, by the way, is for my partner Kevin Collard, but the easiest way to come off badly

  • Elon MuskMentionsWhether you like him or not, Elon, this is similar to his um if you watch him, he has sets these really ambitious goals

    if the storytelling of Elon allows SpaceX, which by the way I love.

  • Marc AndreessenRecommendsMark Andre had this visual on some podcasts have just imagined a 100,000 drones just coming out of China just at us.

    I gotta admit I like to make fun of Mark Andre a lot, but he recommended a book called The Ancient City

  • Will DurantCoinedmentioned

    Lessons from History by Alan Durant is like probably the most approachable non-obvious book I love.

  • Jessica LessinMentionsmy wife Jessica

    and your wife, she runs the information.

  • Brit MorinMentionsmentioned

    And Dave Moren, Brett Morren, just to be clear and your wife

  • Dave MorinMentionsmentioned

    And Dave Moren, Brett Morren, just to be clear and your wife

Resources · 41

  • Slow VenturesMentionscompany

    Today my guest is Sam Lesson, partner at Slow Ventures, previous VP of product at Facebook and two-time founder.

  • TenWebMentionscompany

    This episode is brought to you by Tene Webb, the company that pioneered AI website building before ChatgPT.

  • Lenny’s Newsletter Product PassMentionsproduct · Lenny Rachitsky

    Head on over to lennisnewsletter.com and click product pass.

  • DXMentionssoftware · DX

    Today's episode is brought to you by DX, the developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers to thrive in the AI era.

  • Kleiner Perkins holiday partyMentionsevent · Kleiner Perkins

    you're at the Kleiner Perkins holiday party. You have all the venture capital in the world and all the CEOs.

  • FacebookUsescompany · Meta

    you know I worked at Facebook for a long time was really into it early on.

  • Y CombinatorMentionscompany · Paul Graham and co-founders

    we did a class specifically initially for YC founders

  • Four SeasonsMentionsplace

    We hosted it was at the Four Seasons.

  • The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the GalaxyMentionsbook

    I'm reading one of my sons right now the third book of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  • EvernoteUsessoftware

    I have like a Evernote. It's not Evernote anymore. It's like a bear of like my favorite jokes

  • BearUsessoftware

    It's not Evernote anymore. It's like a bear of like my favorite jokes and I they're loosely ranked

  • WorkOSMentionscompany · WorkOS, Inc.

    The answer is they're all powered by today's sponsor, Work OS.

  • CalendlyUsessoftware · Tope Awotona

    I'm fairly famous for hating Calendarly.

  • AirbnbMentionscompany · Brian Chesky, Joe Gebbia, and Nathan Blecharczyk

    When we were selling our company to Airbnb, we had this guy helping us sell the company

  • ChatGPTMentionssoftware · OpenAI

    An emoji sometimes kind of implies used AI to generate this thing because JGBD loves emojis.

  • iOSMentionssoftware · Apple

    You can like create your own emojis now in iOS

  • GmailUsessoftware · Google

    you would think nobody sees all these little things in the Gmail thread, but you do.

  • Letter MemeUseswebsite · Sam Lessin

    I have a grid of like what's going on in the world as a front page in cartoons and I actually love it.

  • Letter MemeCoinedwebsite · Sam Lessin

    I built a little personal news aggregator called letter meme that basically takes all the newsletters

  • CloudflareUsescompany

    cursor and digital ocean and cloudflare will get you a long way in terms of just like building this stuff on the fly

  • CursorUsessoftware · Anysphere

    cursor and digital ocean and cloudflare will get you a long way in terms of just like building this stuff on the fly

  • DigitalOceanUsescompany

    cursor and digital ocean and cloudflare will get you a long way in terms of just like building this stuff on the fly

  • OpenAIMentionscompany

    is open AAI a good investment or not it's a terrible seed investment right

  • SpaceXRecommendscompany · Elon Musk

    if the storytelling of Elon allows SpaceX, which by the way I love. I think SpaceX is an awesome company.

  • Sublime SecurityMentionscompany

    we've done a lot whether it's sublime security or outtake things like that

  • Blade RunnerMentionsfilm

    all around the theme of the void comp test from great bladeunner

  • OuttakeMentionscompany

    we've done a lot whether it's sublime security or outtake things like that

  • The Ancient CityRecommendsbook

    he recommended a book called The Ancient City, which is fascinating. And so I'm in the middle of that right now.

  • Man's Search for MeaningRecommendsbook · Viktor Frankl

    Man's Search for Meaning is great.

  • Area 51: An Uncensored History of America’s Top Secret Military BaseRecommendsbook

    You know what's great? Area 51, an uncensored history of the top secret military base. Not very ariodite. Great book.

  • The Lessons of HistoryRecommendsbook · Will Durant

    Lessons from History is like one of my favorite books ever. Um I would really really really recommend it.

  • The Fish That Ate the WhaleRecommendsbook

    what's it called this the fish that ate the whale incredible book

  • The Last Kings of ShanghaiRecommendsbook

    so is um the last kings of Shanghai if you know that one like these are all like amazing books

  • LandmanRecommendstv show

    I think Land Man is fabulous. Have you watched Land Man?

  • June DateRecommendssoftware

    I will pitch people on June date.

  • TinderMentionscompany

    call it Tinder 2.0, one of the best sources of information to do that is their chat GPT histories.

  • June DateMentionssoftware

    one of the best sources of information to do that is their chat GPT histories.

  • ChatGPTUsessoftware · OpenAI

    one of the best sources of information to do that is their chat GPT histories.

  • The InformationCoinednewsletter · Jessica Lessin

    and your wife, she runs the information.

  • More or LessMentionspodcast · Sam Lessin, Jessica Lessin, Dave Morin, and Brit Morin

    I really enjoy your podcast called More or Less.

  • Lenny's Podcast websiteMentionswebsite · Lenny Rachitsky

    You can find all past episodes or learn more about the show at lennispodcast.com.

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Insights & moments

The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 3

Hot Take07:30

Show Up With the Calm of Abundance, Not the Panic of Scarcity

Lessin's core mental model for high-stakes rooms: even if you feel like a moment is your one big shot, project the calm of abundance instead of scarcity. Founders who show up like an 'Energizer Bunny' scare people off and project the wrong vibe. The fix is to give more than you take, build relationships rather than collect business cards, and remember there will be other opportunities.

  • At events like a VC holiday party, young founders make interactions transactional out of a scarcity mindset.
  • High-intensity 'this is my one shot' energy projects the wrong vibe and burns relationship opportunities.
  • Come in with an abundance mindset: give more than you take, build a relationship, don't just collect business cards.
  • You can succeed without any of this, but ignoring it creates an unnecessary uphill battle for yourself.

If you show up like a little Energizer Bunny, right, you're gonna scare off like you're gonna project totally the wrong vibe.

Sam Lessin · 07:30

Understand how to build a relationship, not collect business cards.

Sam Lessin · 08:00
#mindset#networking#abundance#founders
Hot Take30:00

Fit Beats Brand — and Don't Wear a Rolex as a Startup Founder

Lessin's blunt take on dress: fit is everything, and a well-fitting cheap shirt beats an expensive one that fits badly. Most people can't tell what clothes cost but can intuitively read whether something fits. Showing up as a startup founder with an obviously expensive item like a Rolex reads as classless and trying too hard — you won't trick anyone.

  • Fit is everything; a well-fitting $20 shirt beats a poorly-fitting $500 one.
  • The average person can read whether a suit fits, but has no idea what things cost.
  • A misfitting-but-expensive item signals you're not aware or matching the room.
  • Wearing a Rolex as a startup founder is 'very classless' — it's trying too hard and won't fool anyone.

a well-fitting $20 shirt is way better than a misfooting $500 shirt, right?

Sam Lessin · 30:30

you shouldn't have a Rolex, right? It's like very classless, if that makes sense, to like show up as a startup founder with a Rolex,…

Sam Lessin · 30:30
#dress#style#founders#status
Hot Take1:11:00

Contrarian Take: Seed Investors in AI-Branded Startups Will Lose a Fortune

In Contrarian Corner, Lessin argues that seed VCs backing companies branded as 'AI companies' will lose an impossibly large amount of money. His logic: AI businesses are too capital-intensive for seed math to work (even OpenAI at a $500B cap is a middling ~25x seed return), and they're fundamentally commoditizing with unclear lock-in. He distinguishes sharply between businesses that use AI as a propellant — which he loves — and 'we are the AI blank' companies, which he thinks go to zero.

  • Seed VCs in AI-branded companies are going to lose an impossibly large amount of money in coming years.
  • AI is a powerful propellant for existing businesses, but not a great standalone startup opportunity.
  • Even OpenAI is a poor seed investment: at a $500B cap, seed investors made only ~25x on an extremely capital-consumptive company.
  • His 'teranova' theory: each generation craves a new frontier, and AI-god narratives are today's version — but the story has to be real.
  • Distinguish businesses supercharged by AI from 'we win because AI' companies, which he expects to go to zero.

I think that the venture capital the seed venture capitalists who invest in companies that are branded as AI companies are going to lose an…

Sam Lessin · 1:11:00

if you're a disciplined seed investor, I guess my contrary take would be run away from things that are AI companies.

Sam Lessin · 1:13:00
#ai#venture-capital#investing#contrarian

Explainer· 2

Explainer00:00

Why Etiquette Is Really About Showing Up With a Low Heart Rate

Sam Lessin reframes etiquette not as stuffy rules but as a skill for entering any room calm and self-assured. He argues it matters more than ever for founders in 2026: as software commoditizes and people fear AI, the ability to build trust, meet people where they are, and mirror expected behavior becomes a real competitive edge. The 'shallow truth' is that it's funny to teach abrasive Silicon Valley coders etiquette; the deep truth is it changes business outcomes.

  • The goal of good etiquette is to show up in a room with a low heart rate.
  • As technology stops being a sideshow and becomes a major deal, trust and social skill matter more, not less.
  • Deep truth: etiquette ironically matters a lot when you ask people to trust you with their data and business.
  • Shallow truth: it's funny to teach Silicon Valley people etiquette when the narrative has long been 'just focus on your product.'

Etiquette is a skill for how to show up in a room with a low heart rate.

Sam Lessin · 00:00

The shallow truth is it's kind of funny to teach Silicon Valley people etiquette, right?

Sam Lessin · 06:30
#etiquette#founders#trust#silicon-valley
Explainer59:00

The Invisible Etiquette of Who You To, CC, and List First

Lessin unpacks the subtle signaling in email recipient fields. The order of names implies who you think is most important — putting an assistant first and the CEO fourth reads as a mistake. Being first on the 'to' line earns more attention; a mass 'to' list signals low importance. The CC line specifically means 'you should have a copy but I'm not expecting an immediate response,' and there's even etiquette around who replies and when.

  • Recipient order signals perceived importance; assistant-first, CEO-fourth reads as done wrong.
  • Being first on the 'to' line earns more attention than being fifth; a huge 'to' list signals low importance.
  • The CC line means 'you should have a copy of this, this isn't really to you, no immediate response expected.'
  • If you're the fifth CC, you're not expected to be the first to respond — there's a language to it worth understanding.

if you're sending an email and the first person on the email is the assistant and the fourth person on the email is a CEO…

Sam Lessin · 59:00

The CC line is very very valuable. It means, hey, you should have a copy of this. This is not really to you.

Sam Lessin · 1:00:00
#email#communication#signaling

Story· 2

Story15:30

Why Sam Was Drawn to Early Facebook: A Name Cheat Sheet

Lessin reveals he has a clinical, family-inherited problem with name-face recognition. Part of his early attraction to Facebook while at the company was that, for the first time, he could walk around college recognizing people he couldn't name and finally 'study' who they were — a genuinely valuable social tool for someone with his condition.

  • Sam has a clinical, hereditary problem with name-face recognition.
  • Early Facebook was the first resource that let him match faces to names he couldn't recall.
  • He frames it as a personal social utility, not just a product he worked on.

I think part of my early attraction to the platform was it was the first time you walk around college and you're like I know…

Sam Lessin · 15:30
#facebook#names#personal-story
Story49:00

The Calendly Rant That Drove a Month of Their Growth

Lessin is famously anti-Calendly — a viral tirade about how disrespectful it is earned millions of engagements and, by his account, meaningfully drove Calendly's growth for a month (they even messaged him). His actual scheduling principle: if you're the less senior or less busy person, don't send a link; let the other person tell you when they're free and move your own schedule to fit.

  • A viral rant about hating Calendly drew millions of engagements and reportedly drove much of Calendly's monthly growth.
  • Default should not be sending a Calendly link, especially if you're the less senior or less busy person.
  • Let the more senior/busier person name their availability, then make it work on your end.
  • If you must use a scheduling tool, give real options — one of the first three slots needs to actually work.

there was a period where Calendarly where I personally had driven most of their growth for the month.

Sam Lessin · 49:00

If you're the less senior person, if you are the less busy person, you should let the other person tell you when they're free and…

Sam Lessin · 50:00
#scheduling#calendly#respect#hierarchy

Tool· 3

Tool1:09:30

Letter Meme: Turning Your Unread Newsletters Into Daily Cartoons

In AI Corner, Lessin — self-described AI skeptic — shares the one AI application he loves: a personal news aggregator he built called Letter Meme (lettermeme.com). You pipe in the newsletters you trust but never have time to read, and it turns them into a daily grid of cartoons plus an email digest, continuously updated. He built the first version himself via vibe coding, then had engineer friends level it up.

  • Letter Meme ingests the newsletters you actually trust and turns them into daily front-page cartoons.
  • You get a once-a-day email digest that stays continuously updated on what's going on.
  • You can create your own and pipe in your own newsletter sources.
  • Built first end-to-end via vibe coding (Cursor, DigitalOcean, Cloudflare), then handed to engineer friends to scale.

I built a little personal news aggregator called letter meme that basically takes all the newsletters I don't have time to read and turns them…

Sam Lessin · 1:09:30
#ai#tools#newsletters#vibe-coding
Tool1:19:00

June & Dane: A Dating App That Matches You From Your ChatGPT History

Lessin pitches June & Dane, a 'Tinder 2.0' dating app that matches people based on their ChatGPT histories rather than a self-written profile. You run a structured prompt they've designed, and it distills a shockingly accurate profile of who you are from what you actually ask ChatGPT. He cites it as an example of a business that uses AI as infrastructure rather than being an 'AI company.'

  • June & Dane matches people using their ChatGPT chat histories as the source of truth.
  • You run a structured prompt that pulls out an 'unbelievably good' profile of who you are.
  • Matching is based on what you actually ask ChatGPT and its implications, not a curated bio.
  • Lessin pulled his own profile and found it a shockingly good description of himself.

this app is kind of built around the premise of distilling. You ask chatgbt a structure prompt that they've designed. It pulls out an unbelievably…

Sam Lessin · 1:19:30
#ai#dating#tools#startups
Tool1:16:30

Sam Lessin's Top Book Rec: 'The Lessons of History' by Will Durant

In the lightning round, Lessin's single most serious book recommendation is 'Lessons from History' (The Lessons of History) by Will Durant — which he calls the most approachable, non-obvious book he loves. It's a short read with an outsized ratio of intellectual return to hours invested. He also name-checks The Ancient City, Man's Search for Meaning, and Area 51.

  • Top serious pick: 'Lessons from History' by Will Durant — the most approachable, non-obvious book he loves.
  • It's a short read (a couple of hours) with a high ratio of intellectual return to time invested.
  • Also recommends The Ancient City, Man's Search for Meaning, and Area 51.

Lessons from History by Alan Durant is like probably the most approachable non-obvious book I love.

Sam Lessin · 1:17:00
#books#recommendations#history

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway14:00

The 'Let It Hang' Trick for When You Forget Someone's Name

A practical social maneuver for the universal problem of blanking on a name. If you're with a partner or friend, introduce them into the conversation and 'let it hang' — the other person then supplies their own name to your partner, and you catch it. Lessin frames it as semi-bad etiquette with enough plausible deniability that it becomes good etiquette by leveraging the social situation.

  • Standard move: 'Lenny, please meet my wife Jessica' — but that fails when you've forgotten the other person's name.
  • Flip it: introduce your partner to the person, then let the pause hang so they introduce themselves and reveal their name.
  • Works because it has enough plausible deniability to read as good etiquette, not a memory failure.
  • Requires being socially in-tune enough to read what's actually happening in the moment.

You're going to forget someone's name. And like what you're supposed to do, the etiquette is say, "Lenny, please meet my wife Jessica."

Sam Lessin · 14:00

I am so bad at remembering names I like I think I have a medical issue so I just can't remember names so this tip…

Lenny · 15:00
#introductions#names#social-skills
Takeaway37:00

Tip a Lot — the Goal Is for Your Tip to Be Invisible

On tipping, Lessin's rule is simple: tip a lot, with 20% as the floor. The point isn't the money — it's that everyone at the table feels at ease and taken care of. When dining with a very well-known person and picking up the check, you have to tip the way they would (often 100%), because a stingy tip becomes the only thing anyone remembers about the night.

  • 10–20% is the minimum; 20% feels like the floor, and you don't want your tip to be memorable in either direction.
  • When you treat a very well-known person, tip the way they would tip — often around 100% of the bill.
  • The tip isn't the point; the goal is that everyone feels taken care of and relaxed.
  • A memorably stingy (or absurdly large) tip is the thing people recall instead of the conversation.

you kind of have to tip the way they would tip and they're gonna tip like a 100% of the bill, right?

Sam Lessin · 37:00

Honestly, the only thing I remember for the night is how much the person tips.

Sam Lessin · 38:00
#tipping#dining#generosity
Takeaway1:04:00

Video Call Etiquette: Camera On, Bed Made, Closet Closed

Lessin's practical rules for virtual meetings, which he admits he sometimes breaks knowingly. Keep your camera on, dress appropriately, and have an appropriate background — if your bed is visible, make it. He dislikes virtual backgrounds and singles out a classic founder mistake: getting on a Zoom call with the closet door hanging open. Small, easy signals go further than people realize.

  • You really should have your camera on for video calls, even if it's tempting not to.
  • Dress appropriately and keep an appropriate, tidy background; make the bed if it's in frame.
  • He'd rather see a real (made) bedroom than a virtual background.
  • Classic founder error: an open closet visible on the Zoom call — just close it.

you should dress appropriately for a video call. You should have an appropriate background.

Sam Lessin · 1:04:00

Close your closet. Like people will get on Zoom calls and you'll be on a call and like their closets open.

Sam Lessin · 1:04:30
#video-calls#remote#meetings#founders