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Laura Modi (Bobbie)13 April 2023

How to build a cult-like brand

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take

Product and Brand Do 60% of the Growth Work

Laura estimates that product plus the brand surrounding it account for 60% of Bobby's growth, with distribution making up the remaining 40%. Her warning is that teams can obsess over paid, SEO, and word-of-mouth mechanics while the larger product-and-brand foundation remains mediocre.

  • Product and brand are the majority of the growth equation
  • Distribution cannot rescue a product customers do not believe in
  • Word of mouth depends on both product quality and brand resonance
  • Marketing focus can distract from a mediocre core

60% of it is your is your product and the package around the product, which is your brand.

Laura Modi
#growth#brand#product#word of mouth

Story· 2

Story

Formula Guilt Revealed the Opportunity for Bobby

Laura knew little about infant formula until she became a mother and struggled to breastfeed. Reading the ingredients and confronting a product that felt medical, unattractive, and socially associated with failure exposed both a product gap and an emotional burden that she wanted Bobby to address.

  • Personal product use exposed an overlooked category problem
  • The opportunity combined ingredients, design, and emotion
  • Formula was framed socially as a failed alternative rather than food
  • A widely used product category had seen little change

I feel like we have failed to breastfeed.

Laura Modi

society has set this up to make formula feel like you have failed.

Laura Modi
#founder story#infant formula#consumer insight#stigma
Story

An FDA Shutdown Forced a Year-Long Patient Pause

Soon after Bobby launched a pilot, the FDA objected to its product labeling and the company pulled and relabeled everything. Laura describes the next year of working with the agency not as a pivot but as a patient pause required to rebuild alignment and return to market.

  • Disrupting a regulated status quo can provoke institutional reaction
  • The company removed and relabeled its pilot product
  • Returning to market required another year of agency work
  • A forced pause need not become a change in mission

It was a patient pause, making sure that we could get back on track and build intentions with the FDA again.

Laura Modi
#regulation#fda#resilience#startups

Tool· 1

Tool

Use One-Hour Slack Sprints to Make Async Decisions

Laura says moving away from meeting culture has improved how Bobby ships. For a focused question, as many as 20 people can work asynchronously in Slack for one hour, exchange views, reach a decision, and move forward without introducing another process-heavy tool.

  • Frame one decision clearly in Slack
  • Time-box the exchange to one hour
  • Let relevant participants contribute asynchronously
  • End the sprint with a decision and forward movement
  • Avoid adding tools when they overprocess the work

Moving away from meeting culture and being able to be at a position where we can like work async, whether it's one hour sprint over…

Laura Modi
#async work#slack#decision making#meetings

Takeaway· 5

Takeaway

Airbnb Grew by Treating Hosts as the Product

Laura says Airbnb eventually recognized that its real product was its hosts, not merely its technology. That cultural shift changed teams from optimizing tools for their own sake or chasing bookings to building tools around host needs, with growth following from a stronger supply experience.

  • Marketplace supply can be the customer-facing product
  • Teams must share that belief before their priorities change
  • Tools should serve users rather than internal metrics
  • Improving the supply experience can create downstream growth

If anything, Airbnb's product was its hosts.

Laura Modi
#marketplaces#airbnb#product strategy#supply
Takeaway

Remote Culture Needs Personal and Professional Connection

Laura argues that colleagues should know one another personally as well as professionally, especially in a remote company. She rejects a purely transactional view of coworkers while acknowledging that the family metaphor needs boundaries when difficult employment decisions arise.

  • Make space for personal and professional check-ins
  • Cross-functional colleagues need reasons to care about one another
  • Purely transactional relationships are not inspiring
  • Personal connection does not eliminate professional boundaries

I think one of the biggest ones I would say is that you need to get to know people personally as much as you do…

Laura Modi
#culture#remote work#leadership#teams
Takeaway

Conviction Comes Before a Big Career Risk

Laura's moves from Google to Airbnb and later from Airbnb to infant formula looked bold from the outside, but she says the latter was not a spontaneous leap. She researched the market and business, assessed her financial capacity, and discussed how long the family could manage before fundraising, while leaving other ideas untouched when she lacked conviction.

  • A visible leap can rest on extensive private research
  • Conviction distinguishes a serious opportunity from an idea folder
  • Assess the financial duration of the risk before acting
  • Luck matters, but preparation shapes which risks get taken

a big reason for not taking the risk is because I didn't feel the conviction.

Laura Modi
#career risk#conviction#founders#research
Takeaway

Doing It All Requires Visible Support Infrastructure

Laura rejects the idea that managing a company and three children happens effortlessly. She credits an executive assistant, nanny, household calendars, and a weekly Sunday meeting with her husband for coordinating a dual-founder household, and emphasizes openly appreciating the people who make that system possible.

  • Support staff are extensions of the operating system
  • Household calendars make family commitments visible
  • A weekly meeting assigns classes, parties, and school events
  • Celebrate and care for the people providing support

the only way to embrace the all is you actually need to put in the work to build the infrastructure, the systems, the frameworks.

Laura Modi
#support systems#family#founders#planning
Takeaway

Use Credible Outside Voices to Challenge Category Myths

Laura points to economist and professor Emily Oster as a powerful data-led voice in the feeding debate. Because a company has an obvious commercial interest, an independent expert who can explain evidence and its limits may challenge entrenched beliefs more credibly than the brand can alone.

  • Independent experts can carry credibility a company lacks
  • Data can challenge emotionally entrenched category myths
  • A brand should recognize when it is not the best messenger
  • Outside voices should contribute evidence, not borrowed celebrity

sometimes we need to bring in other credible voices.

Laura Modi
#credibility#data#experts#brand strategy