Josh Miller (CEO)19 March 2023

Competing with giants: An inside look at how The Browser Company builds product

9Frameworks

13Insights

Episode overview

Lenny Rachitsky interviews Josh Miller, CEO and co-founder of The Browser Company, about building Arc and competing in the mature browser market. Miller explains why the company pairs metrics with an emphasis on the feelings its software evokes, and how its values, hiring, unusual team structure, rapid prototyping, and public storytelling support that approach. He also lays out Arc’s longer-term ambition to become an “internet computer” and a richer development platform for web-based experiences.

Key ideas

Use metrics to test whether a product achieves its aims, but let desired human feelings guide creation and prioritization.
Choose a market whose success conditions match the team’s distinctive strengths; for browsers, product love, brand, and experience can drive growth and revenue.
Build company values by observing the traits already present in the team, then express them in language and formats that feel authentic.
Treat hiring and the team itself as a core product, attracting intrinsically motivated people with an ambitious mission, trust, autonomy, and visible credit.
Prototype organizational design as well as product features, including membership and storytelling teams and project-specific product leadership.
Use public storytelling to build human trust, while recognizing the risk of centering founders too heavily.
Give teams and features new names when useful to loosen inherited assumptions and encourage first-principles thinking.
Arc’s long-term vision is an internet computer that narrows the experience gap between web and native software and supports a richer developer platform.

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Frameworks in this episode

Strategy5 steps

Category-Attribute Fit

Don't pick a market then decide how to win. Work out what wins there, and only pick markets where that's who you are.

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Leadership4 steps

Full-Stack Relationship Orgs

Replace support, success, research, PR and marketing with two teams that own a human relationship end to end.

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Innovation4 steps

Optimizing for Feelings

Name the emotion the product must evoke, build to that, and use metrics only as an honesty check.

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Leadership4 steps

Project-Chosen Leads and the Mutt Hire

PM is a role on a project, not a department — and you staff it with multi-disciplinary makers, not title-holders.

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Communication4 steps

Radical Trust Building

Not radical transparency — let people know you as humans, so the permission dialog gets the benefit of the doubt.

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Strategy5 steps

The D5/D7 Ungameable North Star

One metric that fuses retention, engagement and growth — tracked as growth rate and cohort slope, never absolutes.

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Innovation4 steps

The Made-Up Name Reset

Give a team or feature a name nobody recognizes, so nobody can skip the argument about what it should be.

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Leadership5 steps

The Team Is the Product

Choose the company you want to build first, pick a problem worthy of it, then treat every hire as a product launch.

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Leadership5 steps

Values as a Mirror

Don't author values. Interview the whole team, harvest their exact words, and write them back as a story.

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People & resources mentioned

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People · 17

Lenny RachitskyCoinedtoday we've got another very special compilation episode something I've been pulling on more and more with the podcast and the newsletter
“welcome to Lenny's podcast where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts”
▶ Watch at ~1:12approx.
Josh MillerMentionstoday my guest is Josh Miller Josh is the CEO and co-founder of a company called the browser company
“today my guest is Josh Miller Josh is the CEO and co-founder of a company called the browser company”
▶ Watch at ~1:23approx.
Hursh AgrawalMentionsearlier in my career started a company also with Hirsch my current co-founder and CTO
“earlier in my career started a company also with Hirsch my current co-founder and CTO”
▶ Watch at ~10:42approx.
Walt DisneyCoinedwhat do you think Walt Disney was optimizing for when he was crafting Disneyland
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Phil KnightCoinedwhat do you think Phil Knight was thinking about when he made that first version of the Nike running shoe
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“what do you think Steve Jobs was imagining and daydreaming about when thinking about the iPhone or the Macintosh”
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Shahed KhanMentionsthe most common question turned out was from Shahed Khan who had the most likes of all the questions
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Darin FisherCoinedwe hired someone named Darren who as I mentioned he co-created the first prototype of chrome and then ran it for 16 years
“we hired someone named Darren who as I mentioned he co-created the first prototype of chrome and then ran it for 16 years”
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Josh LeeMentionsand then we have a person named Josh Lee
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Scott BelskyMentionsHe's a former founder starting a company called Behance that he sold to Adobe where he worked up the ranks to chief product officer
“Scott is the CPO of adobe and just like awesome product thinker person”
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Robert IrwinMentionsseeing is forgetting the name of fate of the thing one sees which is a book about Robert
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Lawrence WrightCoinedGod saved Texas by Lawrence Wright who's one of my favorite authors
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Resources · 55

Lenny's PodcastCoinedpodcast · Lenny Rachitsky
“welcome to Lenny's podcast where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts”
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The Browser CompanyCoinedcompany · Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal
“Josh is the CEO and co-founder of a company called the browser company which makes a product called Arc”
▶ Watch at ~1:26approx.
ArcUsessoftware · The Browser Company
“which makes a product called Arc which has quickly become my default web browser”
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WriterMentionssoftware · Writer, Inc.
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DovetailMentionssoftware · Dovetail
“this episode is brought to you by dovetail the customer insights platform for teams that gets you from data to insights fast”
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FacebookUsescompany · Meta
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DisneyMentionscompany · The Walt Disney Company
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DisneylandCoinedplace · The Walt Disney Company
“what do you think Walt Disney was optimizing for when he was crafting Disneyland”
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iPhoneMentionsproduct · Apple
“what do you think Steve Jobs was imagining and daydreaming about when thinking about the iPhone or the Macintosh”
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MacintoshMentionsproduct · Apple
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Google ChromeCoinedsoftware · Google
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VimeoMentionscompany
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TumblrMentionscompany · David Karp
“he was the first designer at Tumblr ran the design team at Tumblr for seven years”
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SlackMentionssoftware · Slack Technologies
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“that was the default recommendation when I was signing for substack”
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GitHubMentionssoftware · GitHub
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QuoraMentionswebsite
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MITMentionscompany
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StripeMentionscompany · Patrick Collison and John Collison
“and then was a software engineer at stripe”
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AirbnbMentionscompany · Brian Chesky, Joe Gebbia, and Nathan Blecharczyk
“I mean I remember going to airbnb's offices early in my career and seeing the storyboards lining the walls”
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Snow White and the Seven DwarfsMentionsfilm · Walt Disney Productions
“it was based on the movie Snow White you can read about it”
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CronMentionssoftware
“it's like you guys linear raycast is this product uh cron”
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RaycastMentionssoftware · Raycast
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LinearUsessoftware · Linear
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Thrive CapitalMentionscompany
“I actually spent two years at a venture capital firm as an investor called Thrive capital”
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ChromiumMentionssoftware · Google
“increasingly they're literally just carbon copies of the exact same code chromium with little tweaks”
▶ Watch at ~1:10:38approx.
GoogleMentionscompany · Google
“there is a reason why they are owned primarily by Google Apple and Microsoft”
▶ Watch at ~1:10:52approx.
MicrosoftMentionscompany · Bill Gates and Paul Allen
“there is a reason why they are owned primarily by Google Apple and Microsoft”
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TupleUsessoftware
“I use it I'm not a paired program with anyone it is the fastest way to talk to someone at your company”
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ZoomMentionssoftware · Zoom Video Communications
“it is the best audio quality I have ever experienced in a communication tool better than Zoom”
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AdobeMentionscompany
“Scott is the CPO of adobe and just like awesome product thinker person”
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Amazon Web ServicesMentionscompany · Amazon
“every big public company mentions Microsoft Azure or you know Amazon web servers you hear about cloud cloud and Cloud”
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“every big public company mentions Microsoft Azure or you know Amazon web servers you hear about cloud cloud and Cloud”
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DropboxMentionscompany · Drew Houston and Arash Ferdowsi
“that PDF is probably out on Dropbox somewhere and you're accessing it as a URL”
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iCloudMentionssoftware · Apple
“they're not on your iPhone they're on some iCloud server somewhere”
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CarPlayMentionssoftware · Apple
“my car has car play my TV is a computer my my laptop is a computer”
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FigmaMentionssoftware · Figma
“why do you think figma is in the web browser why do you think figma's blog post was meet us in the web browser”
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FirefoxMentionssoftware · Mozilla
“they built Chrome extensions just so they could you know have parity with Firefox”
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The World Wide WebMentionsother
“if you look at this development platform which exists today the World Wide Web the open internet”
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Seeing Is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One SeesRecommendsbook · Lawrence Weschler
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God Save TexasRecommendsbook · Lawrence Wright
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The Last of UsRecommendstv show · Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann
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HyperNormalisationRecommendsdocumentary · Adam Curtis
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The White LotusMentionstv show · Mike White
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TupleRecommendssoftware
“I want to plug Tuple I think I'm gonna put everything on Tuple”
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Insights & moments

The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 4

Hot Take11:30

Optimize for Feelings, Not Just Metrics

Josh argues that Silicon Valley's obsession with graphs and numbers leaves a lot on the table. At The Browser Company they talk instead about 'optimizing feelings' — deciding what emotion (joy, speed, focus) a feature should evoke. He points to Nike, Disney, and Apple as brands whose founders were designing for feeling, not dashboards, at the moment of creation.

Metrics are quantitative and objective but miss a lot of what makes products beloved
Ask what feeling the software should evoke before you build the feature
Walt Disney, Phil Knight, and Steve Jobs were optimizing for feeling, not numbers
Numbers are still useful to keep yourself honest about whether you're hitting the aim

“what we do at the browser companies we talk about optimizing feelings how does the software how do we want to make someone feel on…”
Josh Miller · 11:30

“what do you think Walt Disney was optimizing for when he was crafting Disneyland what do you think Phil Knight was thinking about when he…”
Josh Miller · 13:00

#product#metrics#philosophy#design

Hot Take31:00

Interviews Designed to Convince People NOT to Join

Josh reframes the company's real product as its team. In interviews he doesn't pitch — he invites questions and is brutally honest that most people shouldn't want to work there. That intentionality, plus an ambitious prompt and genuine empowerment, is how they've hired senior leaders (including a Chrome co-creator, a Vimeo SVP, and a Slack design SVP) as individual contributors.

He views the product as the team, not Arc itself
Interviews aim to convince people not to join; no pitching, radical honesty
Hired Darren (co-created Chrome, ran it 16 years) as an IC
Also hired a former SVP of product at Vimeo and a former SVP of design at Slack as ICs

“I view our product as our team”
Josh Miller · 31:00

“if I have an interview with someone I don't pitch them I say what do you want to ask me anything you want I'll be…”
Josh Miller · 32:00

#hiring#team#culture#recruiting

Hot Take41:00

Building in Public as Radical Trust-Building

Josh explains why a browser company films its own board meetings and shares work publicly: a browser holds your most sensitive data, and tech has broken users' trust repeatedly. His bet is that a great privacy policy isn't enough — people trust people, so letting users get to know the humans behind Arc is a deliberate 'radical trust-building' experiment, even at the risk of looking self-important.

A browser holds your most sensitive personal and professional data — trust is the product
Culturally, users have lost trust in tech brands over the last 5-10 years
A privacy policy alone won't earn trust; people trust people they feel they know
He worries the approach could tip into 'internet celebrity' and wants to be told if it does

“building in public showing you our meetings uncomfortably so is an act in if we were them why should they trust us”
Josh Miller · 42:00

#trust#transparency#brand#privacy

Hot Take52:30

No Product Managers — Hire 'Mutts'

The Browser Company has no PM org; instead the PM role floats to whoever fits a given project — an infra engineer on a performance project, a membership person on a member-facing one. Josh, a former Facebook PM himself, wants multi-disciplinary people who identify as 'I make things.' He openly predicts they'll eventually hire PMs anyway, citing Snapchat and Stripe.

No PM org; the PM role is picked per project, not per person
They hire 'mutts' — multi-disciplinary people who say 'I make things'
Example: Rebecca (data scientist, MIT PhD, ex-Stripe engineer) effectively plays PM
Josh predicts they'll likely add PMs eventually, as Snapchat and Stripe did

“I don't think we will have a PM org or a PM role because again we believe depending on the if you look if you…”
Josh Miller · 53:30

#product-management#hiring#org-design#team

Explainer· 4

Explainer06:00

D5/D7: The One Metric Arc Obsesses Over

Despite championing feelings, Arc still tracks one metric religiously: D5/D7 — how many people use Arc at least five days out of seven. Josh explains it captures retention, engagement, and growth in a single un-gameable number, and that they watch week-over-week growth rate rather than absolute counts.

D5/D7 = people who turn to Arc at least five days a week (others call it L5/L7)
It bundles retention, engagement, and growth and can't be gamed
They track week-over-week growth rate, not absolute user numbers
Grew 10%+ every week for about eight months; D5/D7 retention sits low-30s to low-40s by cohort

“we call it D5 D7 a lot of other companies call it L5 L7 but the human explanation for that is how many people turn…”
Josh Miller · 06:00

#metrics#retention#growth#product

Explainer46:30

The 'Odd Teams': Membership and Storytelling

Instead of standard startup orgs, The Browser Company builds teams from first principles. 'Membership' owns the entire relationship with a user full-stack — collapsing support, success, and user research into one ongoing relationship. 'Storytelling' owns the relationship with everyone they don't yet serve — collapsing PR, investor relations, and marketing into telling the company's story.

Membership owns the user relationship from first touch onward, replacing support/success/research silos
Storytelling owns everyone not yet served — press, investors, marketing as one function
Teams are designed by asking 'what could be' and the most direct way to manifest it
Josh concedes these unconventional orgs 'break down in 18 ways' as you scale

“we start with first principles asking what could be what are we really trying to do here and what is the most direct way to…”
Josh Miller · 49:30

#org-design#team#first-principles#culture

Explainer1:10:30

Why a Browser Was the Perfect Category to Pick

Josh reveals the strategic logic behind choosing browsers. The category is uniquely universal-consumer, a commodity (near-identical chromium clones), and hugely lucrative. In a commodity market, you win on emotional connection and brand — which happens to be exactly what The Browser Company is built to do. He frames 'obsess over experience' not as anti-revenue but as the practical way to win this specific market.

Browsers are one of the most universal consumer products, used across every generation
They're commodities — near-identical chromium clones — yet extremely high-margin
In a commodity market you win on emotional connection and brand, not features
Focusing on brand and experience IS the growth-and-revenue strategy, not a trade-off against it

“we have a product that everyone in the world uses where they're all identical essentially interchangeable commodities and if you can get people to use…”
Josh Miller · 1:11:00

“we in fact picked a category of software we're focusing on brand and user experience is how you get growth and revenue”
Josh Miller · 1:12:30

#strategy#market#brand#product

Explainer1:16:00

The 'Internet Computer' Vision Behind Arc

Josh lays out the company's real ambition: not a browser but an 'internet computer.' As everything — apps, files, photos — moves to the cloud, hardware becomes an empty shell and your true computer lives on the internet. Arc aims to be to the web browser what the iPhone was to the cell phone, and eventually a development platform more valuable than the first-party product itself.

Everything is moving to the cloud; your files are already URLs, not local objects
Hardware is commoditizing into empty vessels; the real computer lives on the internet
Arc aims to be the interface to that internet computer — 'the iPhone for the internet'
The long-term value is Arc as a development platform, not the browser itself

“what we are building at the browser company is an internet computer”
Josh Miller · 1:19:00

“we want to be to the web browser what the iPhone was to the cell phone”
Josh Miller · 1:19:30

#vision#strategy#cloud#platform

Story· 2

Story13:30

What Facebook's Metrics Missed About Snapchat

Josh recalls Facebook debating the Snapchat threat by tracking an acronym seared into his memory — OBPS (posts per week). He argues the right question was whether people felt closer to friends and family, which is what Snapchat actually got right by designing for something human rather than a composer-open count.

Facebook measured its Snapchat response via OBPS — shares/posts per week
The better question was whether people felt closer to friends and family
Snapchat succeeded by chasing a human feeling, not a composer-open count
Use metrics to stay honest, but don't let them define what you're building

“I think that's what Snapchat got so right they weren't obsessing about something like how many people put an image into the composer and hit…”
Josh Miller · 14:30

#metrics#facebook#snapchat#product

Story23:30

Company Values as a Mirror: The Road Trips Essay

Josh admits he hated corporate values and resisted them for two years. The unlock came when he noticed the team already shared organic traits; they interviewed everyone one-by-one and wrote the values back as a mirror. Rather than a landing page of titles, they published an essay called 'notes on road trips' — a semi-fictional story that carries the values without feeling like propaganda.

He resisted corporate values for ~2 years as 'fortune cookie' propaganda
Values emerged organically before anyone named them
They interviewed the whole team one-by-one; nearly every value is a team member's own words
Published as an essay, 'notes on road trips', instead of a values landing page — took ~3 months

“the secret is I hate corporate values I've never resonated with them”
Josh Miller · 23:30

“let's write a manual for how to take a road trip so we wrote an essay called notes on road trips”
Josh Miller · 25:30

#culture#values#team#storytelling

Tool· 1

Tool1:14:00

Tuple: The Tool Josh Can't Stop Recommending

In the lightning round and mid-conversation, Josh repeatedly plugs Tuple. Nominally a pair-programming tool that lives in your menu bar, he says the real use is talking to a colleague fast, and it delivers the best audio quality he's ever experienced in a communication tool — better than Zoom — wrapped in a beautifully simple design.

Tuple is ostensibly a pair-programming tool that lives in the menu bar
Josh uses it as the fastest way to talk to a colleague, not for pairing
He rates its audio quality above Zoom
Beautiful, simple design is part of why it wins for him

“it is the best audio quality I have ever experienced in a communication tool better than Zoom”
Josh Miller · 1:14:30

#tools#software#collaboration#recommendation

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway37:00

Hiring Someone Is a Product Launch

Because the team is the product, The Browser Company celebrates every hire and every shipped feature publicly — naming the individuals who did the work. Josh contrasts this with Silicon Valley's CEO hero-worship and insists Arc's magic accrues to the makers, not him. It creates a reinforcing cycle where great people feel genuinely wanted and recognized.

Announcing a new hire is treated as a product launch
Shipped features credit the specific people who built them, publicly
Deliberate rejection of CEO hero-worship — 'I don't make Arc'
Public recognition becomes a recruiting flywheel

“when our first designer joins we want to tell everyone about it that's a product launch that is the product launch”
Josh Miller · 37:00

#culture#hiring#recognition#team

Takeaway1:05:30

Give Things a Made-Up Name to Shed Assumptions

One tactical trick Josh recommends: rename teams, roles, and features to escape inherited baggage. Calling something a 'browser history feature' means everyone already knows what it should be — the downside of a shared name. He cites Airbnb briefly calling PMs 'producers' to force intentional thinking about the role, and uses invented names like 'storytelling team' to get to true first principles.

A familiar name imports preconceived notions of what a thing must be
Made-up names force first-principles thinking about the actual goal
Airbnb once called PMs 'producers' to signal producing beautiful experiences
It's a low-risk, two-way-door experiment — revert if it doesn't work

“when you give something a new name it sheds a lot of preconceived notions”
Josh Miller · 1:05:30

#product#naming#first-principles#tactics

Key ideas

Frameworks in this episode

Category-Attribute Fit

Full-Stack Relationship Orgs

Optimizing for Feelings

Project-Chosen Leads and the Mutt Hire

Radical Trust Building

The D5/D7 Ungameable North Star

The Made-Up Name Reset

The Team Is the Product

Values as a Mirror

People & resources mentioned

People · 17

Resources · 55

Insights & moments

◆Hot Take· 4

Optimize for Feelings, Not Just Metrics

Interviews Designed to Convince People NOT to Join

Building in Public as Radical Trust-Building

No Product Managers — Hire 'Mutts'

✶Explainer· 4

D5/D7: The One Metric Arc Obsesses Over

The 'Odd Teams': Membership and Storytelling

Why a Browser Was the Perfect Category to Pick

The 'Internet Computer' Vision Behind Arc

❝Story· 2

What Facebook's Metrics Missed About Snapchat

Company Values as a Mirror: The Road Trips Essay

✦Tool· 1

Tuple: The Tool Josh Can't Stop Recommending

▲Takeaway· 2

Hiring Someone Is a Product Launch

Give Things a Made-Up Name to Shed Assumptions

Hot Take· 4

Explainer· 4

Story· 2

Tool· 1

Takeaway· 2